Someone pointed me to this note by John Langford:
Graduating students in Statistics appear to be at a substantial handicap compared to graduating students in Machine Learning, despite being in substantially overlapping subjects.The problem seems to be cultural. Statistics comes from a mathematics background which emphasizes large publications slowly published under review at journals. Machine Learning comes from a Computer Science background which emphasizes quick publishing at reviewed conferences. This has a number of implications:
1. Graduating statistics PhDs often have 0-2 publications while graduating machine learning PhDs might have 5-15.
2. Graduating ML students have had a chance for others to build on their work. Stats students have had no such chance.
3. Graduating ML students have attended a number of conferences and presented their work, giving them a chance to meet people. Stats students have had fewer chances of this sort.
In short, Stats students have had relatively few chances to distinguish themselves and are heavily reliant on their advisors for jobs afterwards. This is a poor situation, because advisors have a strong incentive to place students well, implying that recommendation letters must always be considered with a grain of salt.
This problem is more or less prevalent depending on which Stats department students go to. In some places the difference is substantial, and in other places not.
One practical implication of this, is that when considering graduating stats PhDs for hire, some amount of affirmative action is in order. At a minimum, this implies spending extra time getting to know the candidate and what the candidate can do is in order.
My first thought is that if CS graduate students really have 5-15 publications, then, yeah, maybe I would like to hire these people--at least they seem to have learned some useful skills! I don't know how different the fields really are--I remember, about 10 or 15 years ago, one of my senior colleagues in the statistics department telling me that one of my papers must not be very good, because I had published only one paper on the topic. (His reasoning: if it were really such a good idea, it should be possible to get several papers out of it.)
Beyond this, I've always assumed that Ph.D. students in certain fields (computer science, also I'm thinking of economics and physics) are simply smarter, on average, than students in more run-of-the-mill fields such as statistics, math, political science, and sociology. I don't mean that this is always true, but I've always thought (with no particular hard evidence) that it was true on the average. Of course, it's important what you learn at these programs too. Top MBA programs are incredibly hard to get into, but that doesn't mean I want to hire an MBA to do research for me.
But, as I've written before, the cool thing about a postdoc (compared to a faculty position, or for that matter compared to admissions to college or a graduate program) is that you're hired based on what you can do, not based on how "good" you are in some vaguely defined sense. I like to hire people know how to fit models and to communicate with other researchers, and my postdocs have included a psychologist, an economist, and a computer scientist, along with several statisticians.
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